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Multiclip Sequence Problem

Postby tacman1123 on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:12 am

Not sure if this is a bug or something I'm doing wrong.

3 cameras shooting the same scene. Import a single clip from each of the cameras into a sequence named 'pluraleyes', click on 'sync', and a new sequence is created with the 3 clips shifted properly. No problems.

Now I rename that sync'd sequence to pluralize (after renaming the first one to raw, I hate this method of using a sequence name to key the target, but that's another issue), and now run the multiclip function in PluralEyes, which creates a multiclip in the bin. When I look at that multiclip, two of the clips are synced, but one is completely out of sync -- in fact, outside of the boundaries of the clip that was in the original timeline.

That's where I think the problem is, so I'll provide a bit more detail. Since I just wanted to sync up a small section of longer clips, I created some markers on one of the clips in the bin. Then I chose one of the markers that's displayed beneath the clip, put that into the viewer, and then into the timeline (the first 'pluraleyes' timeline, the raw one). The sync works fine with that, but when the multiclip is created, the sync points aren't even within the marked section, but rather at some point earlier in the clip.

This leads me to believe that either FCP or Pluraleyes isn't handling the marker offset correctly. I can post the before and after XML files if that's helpful.

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Re: Multiclip Sequence Problem

Postby admin on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:02 pm

1. When you press the Sync button PluralEyes creates a synced sequence and a multiclip. I'm not sure why you are explicitly creating a multiclip as a separate step.

2. There's a typo either in your message or in your workflow: the magic sequence name is "pluraleyes" not "pluralize". If you did have a typo in your project perhaps PluralEyes picked up on the wrong sequence.

3. If you really want to use the Multiclip button, the clips in the sequence named pluraleyes must be in their synced position. Multiclip does not do a sync, it just creates a multiclip using the timing that is already there in the sequence.

If none of the above helps, send us the project and log files as described on the page below and we'll investigate.

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Re: Multiclip Sequence Problem

Postby martin devaney on Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:39 am

I was about to post about the exact same issue. I'm using FCP.

There seems to be no problem if syncing a number of tapes where the content is unbroken. The problem appears to be when syncing CLIPS from these tapes eg two tapes from different cameras may feature establishing footage but I want to sync the show that was recorded from two different angles (the miscellaneous footage at the start of each tape of course is not needed and won't sync anyway)

here's what happens
1) - I drag clips I want synced into the 'pluraleyes' sequence
2) I press the sync now button on the pluraleyes window
3) - the clips are synced and shown in a new 'pluraleyes synced' sequence

The multiclip sequence (which is what I really want) is generated automatically but it's clips are all over the place. Its clips are not synced together and it includes footage from outside the clip. In the example above it would include the establishing footage as well and this may be what is throwing it off.

Again, the clips sync. The Multiclip does not and contains footage outside the clips

Martin

(An observation- the OP's problem is not caused by a typo- otherwise the clips wold not have synched)
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Re: Multiclip Sequence Problem

Postby tacman1123 on Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:59 am

I think my issue is a little different, but may be the same bug. (And yes, the typo was in my post, not in my sequence name. But I'll reiterate the need to not use 'pluraleyes' as a magic name, far too many of my sequences now have some variation of that code word, and it's getting confusing).

In mine the clips sync perfectly, and the multiclip looks perfect. But one of the angles of the multiclip is way out of sync, in fact out of range. I had synced up a 5 minute performance (part of a 30-minute magic show), and while two of the angles show the magician doing a rope trick, the other angle is him doing linking rings -- not even part of the seen in the synced sequence.

So my theory is that since the synced sequence used clips that had in and out points, and markers, that someone all the offsets didn't get pushed through to the multiclip.

Is there some sort of Remote Control software for the Mac? If so, I'd be happy to show the pluraleyes developer(s) the problem. I use TightVNC on my Windows machine, but haven't tried anything for the Mac.

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Re: Multiclip Sequence Problem

Postby admin on Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:41 am

To both posters: the best way for us to analyze what you are reporting is for you to send the project (.fcp) and log files to us as described below. Be sure the project file is a snapshot after PluralEyes has run and shows any markers or other setup features that might be relevant to the problem.

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Re: Multiclip Sequence Problem

Postby admin on Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:43 am

martin devaney wrote:(An observation- the OP's problem is not caused by a typo- otherwise the clips wold not have synched)

Except that the OP said he ran Sync and then ran Multiclip. If in the second step there was a typo the Multiclip operation could have acted on the sequence that was previously named correctly.
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